Workshopper Beware: Navigating the Risky Waters of Writing Classes and Retreats

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Today’s post is by author and book coach Andromeda Romano-Lax (@romanolax).


Several years ago, I attended a writing workshop held in a beautiful locale, with sumptuous food and dreamy scenery. Only the teaching was bad. And not just bad. It was the most disorganized and downright toxic event I’d experienced in twenty-plus years.

Before attending this event, I thought I’d seen it all: middle-aged writers leaving in tears after being told they should give up on their projects; women being taken to task for their parenting, marriages, or some other personal choice or foible; racist micro-aggressions; genre prejudices; the withholding of attention except for teachers’ pets. There are so many ways for a workshop to go wrong, even when no one is left offended or devastated.

For a time, I attended private workshops or retreats when I jumped genres and was hoping to accelerate the learning process, with some networking on the side. That was the case when I signed up for a screenwriting workshop with a notable Hollywood writer at a high-prestige conference. He cancelled at the last minute due to delays on a movie set, to be replaced by another man who had made one low-budget, poorly rated sci-fi film about fifteen years earlier, and nothing since.

For part of each afternoon, “Nut Spitter,” as I came to privately call him, leaned back in a comfy armchair, eyes closed, one hand on his ample belly as he fed himself pieces of nuts that he would spray outward, in flecks and fragments, as he monologued.

By the second day, I realized I should sit further back in the half-circle.

By the third day, I realized I wasn’t going to learn much about screenwriting.

We never ended up doing any kind of workshopping in that particular “workshop.” We didn’t read screenplays, discuss structure, or do any writing exercises. Over several days, we mostly heard our teacher’s opinions about one-sentence loglines, a subject easily covered in one hour. I let the conference organizers know what was happening, but I didn’t request a refund because I feared offending them. I had a new novel coming out soon, and I didn’t want to burn any bridges. On top of that, tuition had been just part of my expenses. Lodging and airfare cost even more. There was no getting that money back.

Heeding the siren call of a Big Name, as I’ve done at least three other times, doesn’t always lead to disappointment. At one workshop led by one of my all-time heroes, I had a great time. But then again, I wasn’t the person in that same workshop who’d just written a cancer memoir only to be told by the author-teacher (who didn’t write traditional memoir or know anything about marketing), that her topic had been “done” and she’d never see her story in print. (Needless to say, dozens of cancer memoirs have been published since.)

But the big reason I’ve attended workshops, even after I co-founded a nonprofit literary center and found work as a fiction mentor in a graduate creative writing program, was to improve my own teaching. There’s nothing like learning what to do—and what not to do—than by watching another instructor stagger across the minefield that is workshopping.

Because it is a minefield. A group of strangers, who may or may not be your ideal future readers (or sometimes only the instructor herself), passes judgment on the fate of your project, and possibly your entire writing future, following a quick reading of ten or twenty pages. (Or none!)

Hypothetical Workshop Leader may not recognize that pointing out the good helps writers as much as pointing out the bad. The leader may not have done enough teaching or editing to realize that most writers, even experienced ones, often don’t start in the right place in early drafts. A manuscript can appear much stronger—or weaker—once you’ve gotten past the first fifty pages, which is why a short-term class focused on limited pages may be the wrong place for seeking strong judgments about a book-length work. Luckily, in the last decade, many writing centers and private teachers have begun offering year-long writing classes that allow for discussion of full manuscripts.

Of course, sometimes you’re grateful a workshop doesn’t last very long. At the most recent I attended, the one held in the dreamy locale, I chose not to bring home a souvenir I’d bought. Every time I looked at the handwoven table runner, I’d think of the young woman who was pressured into verbally reenacting an exceptionally traumatic episode not shared in distributed pages. Or the several other women who were selectively bullied, ridiculed, or ignored. I worried most for the vulnerable writers who didn’t seem to realize this sort of workshop behavior, while not exactly unique, also wasn’t the norm. Frankly, I wanted to forget all of it.

But much as I tried, I couldn’t. Six months later, I had the idea to use a toxic memoir workshop as the setting for a suspense novel. Called The Deepest Lake, it will be published in May. In the process of writing it, I’ve heard from other writers who have their own workshop horror stories, which is both validating and worrying in equal measure.

That’s not where the story ends. Because as a teacher and book coach, I’ve continued to ponder the damage that workshops—possibly even my own—do at times. Writing groups have their own issues, but at least the members know each other well. Friend Jill may tend to give spot-on advice, but you know that Joe will never accept an “unlikeable” narrator, Judy thinks one must always show and never tell, and Jeri has made it clear she only reads science fiction.

In more democratic, long-term groups, writers can make their own rules, like doing away with the outmoded “gag rule” that says that writers being workshopped shouldn’t speak, even to answer simple questions. Writing groups and longer workshops can allow for flexibility, prioritizing the writer’s needs with a particular draft. Maybe Jill is ready for a line-by-line analysis with strict attention to description and dialogue tags. Maybe Joe’s draft is tender and he doesn’t need prescriptions, only general feedback on whether the premise has energy. Maybe Judy doesn’t care if some readers don’t know what a “pavlova” is because her ideal readers are Aussie dessert experts. Maybe Jeri wants to hear more from people who don’t read science fiction because she’s hoping her interstellar novel will reach an entirely new audience.

But if writing groups can follow those more democratic and sensible rules, why can’t workshops? The answer is: with modifications, they can.

Last year, I learned about a workshop method called The Critical Response Process. Invented by choreographer Liz Lerman in 1990, CRP is a four-step method for giving and receiving feedback in a way that centers the artist and keeps discussions from going off the rails. Recently, as part of an MFA alumni group, I took a seminar on the method and practiced using it. In my next private online workshop, I gave it a try. The constructive atmosphere and positive student evaluations astounded me.

Decades of attending and teaching workshops have given me lots of stories, either vexing or funny. But only recently have I been brought to a belated epiphany. We don’t have to workshop the way we used to. If we do take a chance and sign up for a high-stakes retreat, we should arrive forearmed, aware not only of our right to walk away from manipulative ploys—like being asked to pay more money once you’ve arrived, only one gambit I’ve observed—or downright abusive methods. As students or as teachers, we should also be aware of newer methods, theories, and debates, like the ones outlined in Craft in the Real World by Matthew Salesses and The Anti-Racist Writing Workshop by Felicia Rose Chavez, both of which demystify workshops and make important arguments about the non-neutral nature of “craft.”

Sometimes, for some people, workshops are magical. But writers who attend them should be prepared for all of it—the magic and the toxic and the just-plain-weird. It doesn’t hurt, in-between those fun moments making friends or getting a great massage, to remember that you are the authority of your story.

Learn from others, but hold onto your power. That’s a lesson we writers often need to re-learn very step along the path to publication.

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emily

Thank you! In my 7-8 years as a writer, I’ve taken exactly one workshop where participants’ shared their written words. It was offered by two respected leaders and, although the 7 or 8 women in the group were lovely, by day 3 of the 2-weeker, I was sure I should never set pen to paper again. Participants wrote from prompts and then constructively critiqued, identified with, and/or fawned over one another. I interpreted their comparative lack of commentary on my own pieces to be a strong indicator that I was wasting my time. More of a teller than a shower, I was invisible to the rest of the pack who clearly appreciated grand prose and poetry over unadorned English. After a brief spell of self-flagellation, I eventually concluded that in attending that particular workshop, I had inadvertently gone to the hardware store in search of milk… These were not my people.

I still tremble at the mere thought of sharing my words with a group of strangers, but at least now I understand that my writing won’t be for everyone. And that’s okay.

Andromeda Romano-Lax

“ I had inadvertently gone to the hardware store in search of milk… These were not my people.” Love that!

Josephine Viscomi

Very brave of you, Emily. As a beginner, I felt the same way in attending my first writers group a few months ago, receiving cold or tolerant stares amongst some and taunting or baiting vibes from others within a mixed group of people, some further along the journey of writing experience, others who would appear to have difficulty telling their own story even in their own language. Since then, I haven’t been back; although I believe that as a wannabe writer, one may need to be more persistent and pushy given the field they are trying to enter, if they want to be recognized and thereafter, respected as a writer.

David Hayes

These are, without a doubt, the worst-case examples. Awful. But I teach in an MFA program & the workshops I run with my students (usually 5-7) are nothing like these. First, my role is not to judge anyone’s project, let alone tell them to give it up, it won’t sell. It’s to encourage them to think about the project, perhaps encourage them to broaden the context by incorporating a wider range of views & examples while still telling their personal story, etc. And ensure that everyone is offering constructive criticism rather than micro-aggressive ones.

Andromeda Romano-Lax

Excellent. We need instructors like you!

Dina Santorelli

Thank you for this. I’m not really a workshop-type girl. They’ve never appealed to me, for some of the toxic reasons you mentioned. When I was in grad school, though, workshops were impossible to avoid, and I found comments from fellow student writers often unhelpful — or just downright mean. My strategy was to focus on the professors, who were great, and that served me well. I tend to treat workshop comments like parenting advice: I accept and absorb what resonates with me, especially when I feel like the advice is coming from a good place, and leave the rest behind.

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

The comparison to parenting is apt. We all know what it’s like to have the world try to tell you how to raise your kids, and probably the same proportion of advice is helpful. Thanks, Dina.

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Joni B Cole

Thanks so much for this thoughtful article.I am a long-time workshop leader, and an advocate for finding a community to motivate, inform, and support your writing in whatever phase of the creative process a dose of feedback serves. I’ve also encountered some toxic situations back in grad school, but in the many years since then, I’ve learned that the effort to find positive, productive feedback is worth it when you’re feeling stuck, need a dose of craft, or simply a sounding board. One of the subjects of my books on writing (Toxic Feedback: Helping Writers Survive and Thrive) addresses how workshops, critique groups, 1:1 partnerships, and both instructors and participants can turn the feedback experience into a valuable resource. (The book also shares many seasoned writers’ takes on this subject, including the brilliant Matthew Salesses.) For me, it helps to keep in mind, whether you agree or disagree with the responses to your work, there is no need for defensiveness or to hole away when you need some outside responses because you are the boss of your own story.

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

Joni Cole, I wrote a much longer version of this essay in which your book was specifically mentioned as well. Readers take note! Joni Cole’s book, Toxic Feedback, not only addresses this issue on a much bigger scale but does so with humor. My favorite part is a dramatized exchange with a stern (cruel) feedback-giver who, over the course of many gentle exchanges, is revealed as having his own wounds. My summary doesn’t do justice to this clever way of showing how to communicate with those who don’t believe in positive feedback.

Susan Nunn

Andromeda, this is excellent. Glad to see all of this out on the page. I’ve been to a few myself, and think it important that we discuss all of the possibilities in the open. Yes, some are wonderful, and yes, some are our worst nightmares. The Good, the Bad, and the Ugly. Good for you!

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

Thank you, Susan!

Karin Gillespie

Yikes. This sounds so familiar to me. It took me years to recover from my own harrowing MFA experience. Thanks for telling us about CRP. Can’t wait to explore it more.

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

Yes, I hope you find it both eye-opening and simple to try. Thanks, Karin!

Randy Susan Meyers

Not only is this an all-too-true piece on too many workshops, but your essay is leading me straight to ordering your novel!

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

Thank you so much, Randy!

Neil Larkins

Wow. I’ve never attended a workshop and have wondered if I missed anything. From your experiences I don’t think I missed a thing.

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

You still may enjoy it at some point, Neil, but now you’ll know what to expect–plus you’ll be grateful if you happen up a great workshop. They’re out there, no question.

Stephen Cowdery

I’ll share with you my experience with The Iceland Writers Retreat, held via Zoom during Covid-isolation in March 2021:
Although the virtual format was almost the exact opposite of the “bodies in a room” experience that I signed up for (way back in 2019!) it was still something, and something about Iceland is usually better than nothing, right? My previous experiences with Zoom had been OK, if somewhat clumsy. This was on a different scale of magnitude, instead of a half-dozen former classmates I was one of a 150 or so fellow-seekers of literary enlightenment, interacting with numerous writers, poets and even an editor! Held over three seven-hour days, there were 27 presentations to peruse in real-time (and to review later at my leisure.)
So, how did it go?
Better than I had hoped.
The three Icelandic authors were the highlights of the retreat for me. Andri Snær Magnason (LoveStar) had a low-key, almost conversational presentation, as did Ragnar Helgi Ólafsson. Hallgrimur Helgason (Hitman’s Guide to Housecleaning, Reyjkjavík 101) gave a wonderful history lesson on modern Icelandic writers, I could have listened to him speak for another ninety minutes. There were non-Icelandic notables as well, I was very impressed by Adam Gopnik’s talk on memoir and was pleasantly surprised by The New York Times Book Review editor(!) Pamela Paul’s wide-ranging discussion on how to write a book review. I saw the bulk of nine presentations and saw most of the others when they were available on re-play.
While this wasn’t the usual format for a workshop, there was plenty on offer. The ability to re-watch the presentations (and to see all the sessions) was something a real-life workshop couldn’t offer.

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

It sounds like this was much more of a conference, and it sounds delightful!

Gregg Wilhelm

Andromeda! We’ve lost touch since AWP Writers Center & Conferences days.

Thanks for this piece; “Nut Spitter” is a side splitter! I’m so glad you discovered the Critical Response Process (I had the privilege of working with Liz while she resided in Baltimore). It’s part of what we’ve folded into at the MFA program I direct, where we’ve also read the Chavez and Salesses texts. What a change-maker! And I’ve pre-ordered THE DEEPEST LAKE on bookshop.org (the perfect way to launch my summer reading). Congratulations!

Writers: I will always give you grief over the sentences you write, it is a craft after all, but never what you write (genre snobbery) or your lived experience (emphasis on empathy) that brings you to a place of creation.

Andromeda C Romano-Lax

Hi Gregg, Your final paragraph reads like a credo worth emulating, especially with the focus on not judging genre or lived experience. Thank you! When I taught in an MFA program, the workshops were more carefully run than the private workshops I describe in my piece here, but genre was still tricky. Some individual mentors would often complain that they didn’t want students assigned to them who wrote X or Y, with fantasy and sci-fi being the most harshly judged. I think that’s changing at the better programs, but it’s yet another warning for workshoppers, especially first-timers. Yes, you will see major book awards and advances go to writers who pioneer, but try the same thing as an apprentice, and you will meet readers (and teachers) who haven’t caught up with how literature has changed in the last 40-50 years.